The Truth about Reincarnation

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To be, again, or not to be, again. That is the REAL question.

 

The Truth about Reincarnation

 

I hope this finds you all well and in good spirit.

 

One of the most interesting and most difficult topics to discuss in spiritual circles is reincarnation. Most feel very set in their opinion, no matter which side of the issue they support. While some believe they remember being different people in past lives, others believe that the mere notion that we have been here before is preposterous.

 

Many religions condemn the possibility of reincarnation as unscriptural and therefore it is an anti-religious viewpoint to believe in it. Not only could anything be further from The Truth, but when one examines the logic used to justify the “one life/one chance” approach, it falls apart at the seams.

 

Let’s assume for the moment that each of us has only one shot at getting this ‘right’ (living our lives according to God’s Will rather our own selfish will). Wouldn’t giving only one chance, when it means immortal life, or death in The Fire, be very unfair of God? Some of us are born into affluent families, while others are born poor. Some live in industrialized countries while others struggle just to find food in less developed countries. Different parts of the world create very different situations and difficulties just as different parts of the same country, state, or even the same city do. The point is this: we all live very different lives and are faced with challenges that are dramatically different from one individual to the next. We often mourn when we see how severe these conditions are for others.

 

With this in mind, please ask yourself one very simple question…do you believe that we all receive the same one time chance at salvation on this planet? Be careful, because if you answer “No”, then you automatically believe that God is not fair. Is that what you really believe? I hope not.

 

Not only is God fair in all things, He is the only one qualified to judge what is fair and what is not. He is also the only one who can judge what is ‘good’ and what is not. You have probably also thought you were ‘good’, or that you know you will be saved, haven’t you?

 

King of king’ Bible - Isaiah 64:6 But we are all as an unclean [thing], and all our righteousnesses [are] like filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our inequities, like the wind, have taken us away.

http://jahtruth.net/kofkad.htm

 

King of kings’ Bible – Matthew 7:11 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask Him?

http://jahtruth.net/kofkad.htm

 

Stop telling yourself the lie that you are good, when God has clearly told you otherwise. Stop telling yourself that you are ’saved’ when only God knows whether that is true or not. It would also be wise to stop telling yourself that God is unfair when you ought to know that He is not. He has sent you signs to show you that reincarnation is a fact of your existence on this planet (e.g. the seasons; winter = death is always followed by spring = rebirth) you just haven’t paid attention. As a matter of fact, He has told you clearly, through the words of Christ-Jesus about salvation and reincarnation:

 

King of king’ Bible - John 3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, [even] the Son of Man which is from heaven.

 

So if none of us have gone to heaven, then where do we go when our bodies die?

 

To answer that question, you must first accept what you really are and where you really are. We spend plenty of time here discussing our souls, but what are they really? How is it that you even know that you have one?

 

The reason that you know you have a soul is because God Himself has told you. You accept it as fact or the first question above would not have made any sense to you. Let’s look at it again:

 

“So if none of us have gone to heaven, then where do we go when our bodies die?”

 

Where do we go? If our body is dead, then the only way we go anywhere is through our soul, which is the REAL YOU. That’s right; the reality of the situation is the real you is a soul that has a body, NOT a body that has a soul. What is a soul? It is a spiritual (spirit-energy) being. Let that sink in for a moment…you now know what you really are: YOU ARE A SPIRIT-ENERGY BEING! You would think as many times as you have referred to yourself as a human+being that this would be intuitive. For much more detail on this subject, and the answer to where you are, why you are here and what you should be doing with every moment of your time, please read “The Way home or face The Fire” by JAH. It can now be downloaded for free @

 

http://jahtruth.net/twh.pdf

 

or you can order a copy of it by following the instructions at the bottom of the page @

 

http://jahtruth.net/wayad.htm

 

Now that you understand what we really are, is it really that difficult to understand reincarnation? We have been placed in these bodies, by God, for a purpose. That purpose is to learn to be good according to God’s instruction and His shining example to all of us, Christ-Jesus. As evil beings (please recall what He told us in Isaiah 64:6, confirmed by Jesus in Matthew 7:11), we are here to be trained, voluntarily, to be good, through life experiences in these bodies. One of the many things we MUST learn is to rid ourselves of our own arrogance. Jesus-Christ and His apostles tell us this is the case.

 

King of king’ Bible – Matthew 18:4 Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the Kingdom of heaven.

 

Luke 14:11 For whosoever exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.

 

James 4:6 But he giveth more grace. Wherefore he saith, God resisteth the proud, but giveth Grace [only] unto the humble.

 

II Corinthians 12:21 [And] lest, when I come again, my God will humble me among you, and [that] I shall bewail many which have sinned already, and have not repented of the uncleanness and fornication and lasciviousness which they have committed.

 

1 Peter 5:6 Humble yourselves therefore under the mighty hand of God, that He may exalt you in due time:

 

Do you really believe that you have been humbled through the experiences of just one lifetime? It is only your own arrogance that would allow you to think that!

 

To think that God; Who is immortal, lives in eternity, is merciful and long-suffering that all might come to repentance; only gives a miserly seventy years out of the whole of eternity for you to get it right, or burn, is not only totally illogical and an insult to God, but it is only further proof that you have not learned what you must. How can giving you seventy years out of eternity be considered long-suffering? Six thousand years is what God considers long-suffering.

 

You have been given many lifetimes and countless experiences to show you what you must do to rid yourself of this arrogance, learn from God how to be good, and follow the life example of Christ when He was here in the body of Jesus. Nothing else makes any sense.

 

LLTK, LLTF, HBFK,

 

Rob

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pablosmog's picture

reincarnation

you are a hypocrite and a liar. "IT IS APPOINTED FOR MEN TO DIE ONCE, BUT AFTER THIS THE JUDGMENT." (Hebrews 9:27). You are the arrogant one, and "the real you" is going to die, one time, and after that the judgment. consider yourself warned.

Marissa's picture

Hey!!

How dare you accuse someone of being a hypocrite. There is nothing wrong with believing God is capable of reincarnating souls. God is capable of everything and anything. It sounds rather blasphemous to misinterpret the Bible and doubt the divine capabilities God has!

You know what, Hebrews 9:27 does NOT even say "born once" in it at all. It just mentions "to die once" meaning it can be one death per life. One death per every incarnation an individual has.

Danny's picture

Ego and Non-sense

Dear Pablo,

The excellent article penned by Rob with guidance from Father, should have already given you a clue that your oppository belief did not originate from Father. And I'll prove this to you :-

Your statement/interpretation makes no sense and lives up to the last part of your nickname = (seeing through a) smog.

For how can "the real you" DIE, and then be judged? If something is DEAD, how can it be alive/exist, to be judged?

Furthermore, even if we suspend logic and give you the benefit of the doubt that your interpretation can (somehow) be correct, then it would mean that figures like Elijah and Jesus proved that Scripture false, by bringing back people to life who had already died once. Or do you deny that these acts took place?

If you don't, then you must re-evaluate what you believe. For those people (Lazarus etc) DEFINITELY "died" AT LEAST TWICE, having been brought back after the first time. And there is also no way that Elijah or Jesus would prove Scripture wrong, when they were all about fulfilling it.

I think the last three words you wrote (consider yourself warned); with your ego foolishly believing that it had delivered some powerful warning to another; can be interpreted as Father warning you to stop writing non-sense (things that make no sense) and start learning the Truth.

Please read "The Way home or face The Fire" by JAH, to learn how things truly are.

http://thewayhomeorfacethefire.net

Peace be with you,

Danny.

As it gets Darker, more will seek The Light - http://thewayhomeorfacethefire.net

Marissa's picture

Tsch

Why can't we have both resurrection and reincarnation? Reincarnation is the rebirthing of the soul, resurrection is the revival of the body.

Of course we are judged after we die! How do you think karma works, huh? God could be judging us by providing us blessings and punishments through many lifetimes.

God is capable of everything, even reincarnating souls. Also, who are you to conclude there is no reincarnation? You are not God. As believers in God we must believe anything is possible with The Lord.

For the Hebrews 9:27 argument... Well guess what! I have never seen "only born once" in it. It only says we die once. Have you ever thought that since it only says "to die once" because it is likely referring to one death per lifetime. It can be God's judgment after the first death which decides the person to be physically resurrected as the same person or not.

Everything and anything is possible with my God. I believe in the God who sustains our souls while we're living through many lives.

Today in modern times all of the world's population are reflecting on the past more than ever before. We always refer to our ancestors and past civilizations as "we." There is a powerful familiarity with those people in the history of human beings. We were once those peoples throughout world history.

The real us/you/me is not limited to who we are in a 'present' lifetime. The real us/you/me is in the Image of God and is the/our soul. The soul just carries on attributes attained, just as a tree does. No matter how a tree grows, it is still a tree. No matter how the soul grows, it is still the soul. No matter how many more traits are added to our real selves, we are still our real selves.

pablosmog's picture

ignorance and presumption

it's not an interpretation. i'm quoting the book as it reads. the warning is not intended to be "powerful." it simply exists. and you can't argue or prove your way out of that fact.

you're the one using the "real you" terminology. that's why i put it in quotes, because i think it's silly.

but if you really have to ask,
"If something is DEAD, how can it be alive/exist, to be judged?"

as though the Bible wasn't clear about this particular field of "theology," (yes, again, the quotes), then you have no idea about The Father, not as described in the Bible. there's an excellent article, about the coming judgment, called the Book of Revelation. that should answer some of your questions. if indeed you can be said to have any.

Danny's picture

Pablo, you are in Babel

Pablo, you are in Babel (Confusion).

It was you who wrote that "the real you" is going to die, one time, and then be judged. And ALL of that, in context, is silly. That you put "the real you", in quotation marks, is irrelevant. You could dress it up with flowers and it would still not make sense.

The real you LIVES ON. Only the hu-MAN dies. And then the real you is judged in Paradise, which means (Para Dice) "to be told", before returning in another body (reincarnation), or in the same body in the case of those who were resurrected.

You have the example of people who have been resurrected (died once and then lived again to die a second time), and you ignore that Scriptural context because it doesn't fit in with what you already believe. It's called Doublethink and is necessary in order to keep believing a lie.

All that you have to cling onto is your misinterpretation of that verse from Hebrews. It says nothing about not living again as a man, after that. Let alone not dying as a man again.

You are making exactly the same presumption as Martha, when she told Jesus :-

John 11
23 Jesus saith unto her, Thy brother shall rise again.
24 Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day.

She did not believe that men who had died once could live again before Judgment Day. Then Jesus brought her brother back from the dead, proving that there are judgments before the final one on Judgment Day, and that God is merciful and long-suffering, exactly as Rob mentioned.

Instead of trying to argue, please read The Way home or face The Fire CAREFULLY and discover the difference between "judgment" and "Judgment Day/The Last Day", and Paradise and Heaven.

As it gets Darker, more will seek The Light - http://thewayhomeorfacethefire.net

michaelmcallister's picture

Reincarnation is false.

Danny,
Yes, souls live on, since they are immortal, but they are not reincarnated. God will judge us on our belief and our actions, and once accepted into Heaven, our soul will unite with our resurrected body.

Danny's picture

Father is not unfair


Michael,


Father is not unfair. Below are some thoughts for your consideration.


You rightfully say that Father will judge us on our beliefs (actually it is Faith [i.e. Trust in God] not "beliefs") and our actions.


Well, the soul of a child who dies at the age of 2 years, and is never reincarnated, will never undergo the same temptations and trials as a man who has lived many years on earth.


That is a fact.


So I put it to you, that IF THERE IS NO REINCARNATION, then the most loving and self-sacrificing thing you could do, is kill a child before they ever have a chance to sin. Then, they would be assured of being accepted into heaven, even if you condemned yourself.


There is absolutely nothing wrong with this logic. Only with the resulting (evil) action. Why would something logical and done out of love, result in something evil?


Answer = because it is based on a lie to begin with. The lie that there is no reincarnation.


It would be the sign of an insane God, to place a soul inside a human body, just ONCE, when that body will die before it ever gets tested...


... if you really stop and think about it.


My Father is neither insane nor unfair.


You claim there is no reincarnation and you also wishfully speak of the soul uniting with your resurrected body.


This should tell you, if you want to see, that you are too wrapped up in your present human identity, and have not been born again from above, to know the Truth.


Father doesn't talk to humans but to spirit-beings/souls.


Unlearn what you have learned (think you know), which doesn't make any sense whatsoever. Become as a little child (who know they know very little and want to learn), and read The Way home or face The Fire.



As it gets Darker, more will seek The Light - http://thewayhomeorfacethefire.net

michaelmcallister's picture

I stand by my statement.

My Father is neither insane nor unfair, thus I stand by my statement. And to quote Rick Reinckens, "Mankind has an innate desire to commune with God. It is in our nature, because God put it there. Satan will use any means available to lead people away from God. He doesn't have to get people to believe there is no god, he simply has to get them to not believe in the Christian God. A simple way for him to do this is with counterfeit religious experiences such as 'reincarnation past-lives.'" I suggest you heed your own advice and unlearn what you have learned (think you know) about Christianity.

Anonymous's picture

I agree with you that

I agree with you that reincarnation is bogus and just another ploy by satan to mislead people away from the truth but how could god possibly judge a persons life that may have died at the age of 2 and never really had a chance to live life. That doesnt totally make sense to me.

Danny's picture

Standing crookedly

Michael,


I see you have not even tried to explain how the way God does things, according to you, is fair and sane. Even after saying that we shall be judged by our beliefs (faith) and actions.


I ask again, what possible actions can a child who lives only a couple of days or weeks, or years, be judged on?


What is called "Christianity" is a lie and makes no sense. It has extremely little to do with Christ, or His Father, Who make perfect sense.


According to you, Rick Reinkens (a counterfeit follower of Christ if what you say is true) says: "Mankind has an innate desire to commune with God. It is in our nature, because God put it there."


The Bible says: "And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually." (Genesis 6:5)


"If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him?" (Matthew 7:11)


It is in the spirit-being's (soul's) nature to commune with God, not man's. And if the human appropriates this desire of it's soul for itself, the result is a humanizing of God; wishing for resurrected human bodies in heaven etc. A false belief. Like the one you preach.


You must be born again (spiritually) FROM ABOVE, and learn that you are not really human.


The Bible is full of references to reincarnation. Here are some more:-


Revelation 1:7
Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.


Revelation 10:11
And he said unto me (John), Thou must prophesy again before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings.


John 21
22 Jesus saith unto him, If I will that he (John) tarry till I come, what is that to thee? follow thou me.
23 Then went this saying abroad among the brethren, that that disciple should not die: yet Jesus said not unto him, He shall not die; but, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee?


It is also worth bearing the following in mind:-


John 16:12
I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.


The only way you can stand by your statement, which does not square with logic and the truth, is crookedly. Perhaps when you can stand straight-er, by letting go of the lies (false human beliefs), you will be able to bear what Christ has to tell you.


You sound like a man who has believed the propaganda of religions that "it doesn't need to make sense, just keep standing by what we tell you and you shall be saved."


Well, just remember one thing. It isn't God Who promised you that.


Danny.


As it gets Darker, more will seek The Light - http://thewayhomeorfacethefire.net

Anonymous's picture

hi, you keep talking about a

hi, you keep talking about a god. I do know that reincarnation is the only truth, BUT the only god i worship is the god inside of me... my soul. the superintelligent energy being from another universe apparently. now what i really want people to do is to stop worshipping some god in the sky, because what people are really doing is worshipping the reptilian aliens on this planet and living there lives completely blind.
P.S. there are safezones in 2012 only one that i know of is behind the rocky mountains, bring all the whole smart humans to colorado, it will be the final stand

michaelmcallister's picture

I know the Truth.

And the Truth is there is but one life. Children who die before their age of reason will join God in Heaven. Believe what you will, but there is no such thing as reincarnation.

Danny's picture

Father is not unfair Part III...


Michael,


You say: "And children who die before their age of reason will join God in Heaven."


I guess you think you are still in with a shout then, since you have not displayed any (reasoning)? I'm seriously starting to wonder if that is your "cunning plan". To plead ignorance before God on Judgement Day. It would fail, if so. You can't say "oh the priests or pastors told me such and such and I faithfully believed them" and expect to get away with it. You will be judged for your own decisions, including who to believe.


God didn't tell you what you claim. Oh, "lucky" them. And "unlucky" us. There is no such thing as "luck". God oversees everything and is fair.


You say: "Believe what you will, but there is no such thing as reincarnation."


Again, God didn't tell you that. You can believe what you want also, such as that your statements do not contradict each other or God's Word (but they do, enormously). If the souls of children who die before their age of reason went straight to heaven, then Father could not possibly be fair in not doing the same for all. End of story.


Further repetitions of "beliefs", without any reasoning or Scripture to back it up, will be deleted and re-offenders banned. I don't want to be going round in circles, childishly. And this is not a medium for organized religion propaganda. There are enough of them out there already with all too many deceived followers wishing to parrot the propaganda.


In Isaiah, we find:-


"Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD..." (Isaiah 1:18)


It does not say: "Come now, and parrot your beliefs to me, and I'll forgive you for sticking with what you were told by others and not reasoning."


Danny.


As it gets Darker, more will seek The Light - http://thewayhomeorfacethefire.net

michaelmcallister's picture

I am not here to debate.

I am not here to debate. I am here to tell what is Truth and what is fiction. I am not stopping you from your babel, so continue on. But one day, you will know the Truth. I wish you well.

Danny's picture

"I am not here to


"I am not here to debate."


You haven't been asked to. But you haven't reasoned either. So if you're just going to say what you believe, please say it once, not three times without adding anything new.


"I wish you well."


Thank-you, Michael. I do wish you well also. Peace be with you.


Danny.


As it gets Darker, more will seek The Light - http://thewayhomeorfacethefire.net

michaelmcallister's picture

The Truth can never be stated enough.

The Truth can never be stated enough.

Danny's picture

Repeat a lie often enough and it becomes the truth (to you)


"But the most brilliant propagandist technique will yield no success unless one fundamental principle is borne in mind constantly and with unflagging attention. It must confine itself to a few points and repeat them over and over. Here, as so often in this world, persistence is the first and most important requirement for success." - Adolf Hitler.



As it gets Darker, more will seek The Light - http://thewayhomeorfacethefire.net

lexie's picture

lexie

I very much agree with Rob on this subject and have had those views for quite some time. When I hear born again christian people bragging they have been saved and will have a seat next to the lord for eternity is almost enough to make me throw up. Perhaps it is just me, but I don't think a simple apology to God cuts it! Some of these so-called born again christians have committed terrible crimes against God and humanity. It is so easy to hide behind God and offer him an apology instead of the people they truly hurt. What a cowardly way out!

Anyhow, I have one question in regards to this subject. What happens to the billions of souls on Earth if life becomes virtually extinct due to a great disaster. Let's say a comet hits this planet and makes it like Mars?

Danny's picture

God oversees all


Hello Lexie,


God oversees all. A comet can't hit this planet unless He makes it happen or allows it.


And if it did happen, it would only affect human lives not spirit-beings. And humans are going to die anyway.


So best to become concerned with the eternal life (or death) of the soul, instead. In the little time we have left.


Peace be with you,


Danny.



As it gets Darker, more will seek The Light - http://thewayhomeorfacethefire.net

lexie's picture

Hi Danny, It sounds as if

Hi Danny,
It sounds as if you agree with me on a great disaster striking us by your reply "in the little time we have left".
It doesn't have to be a comet, it could be so many things such as nuclear war, a natural catastrophic event such as a super-volcano, a terrible uncureable plague amongst other things. Only God knows what our fate awaits. I tend to disagree on not affecting spirit-beings. It is obvious our human bodies will be toast in such events. As Rob noted very few of us are truly good people or spirits that should instantly go up and be in paradise with God upon death of the human body. So my question is where do our souls go in the event of a great disaster? I think it would be foolish for God to take souls who are not truly pure to infect all the good pure souls in his kingdom. That would be like letting all those Asian Carp into the Great Lakes where they will destroy all the clean game fish. There may be some he may take up, but out of billions of people most of our odds are slim to none. There would be no bodies for us to inhabit so would we be stored into something like a virtual hard drive on your pc for a hundred thousand years or until God may decide to start over with human life here or another world that our souls may inhabit? Then the thought of being in that waiting line for a human body! One thing is for sure, life is truly precious.

Take care

Danny's picture

Paradise is not heaven


Hello again Lexie,


Only (Hell-)Fire can destroy spirit beings. The (various) prophesied disasters that come upon mankind before that will not kill the spirit beings. And the Hell-Fire comes after the final Judgment (The Last Day).


You misunderstood what Rob said. He didn't say that only the relatively good souls go to paradise. There is a difference between paradise and heaven. Father does not want to allow insane spirit beings back into heaven, to infect/harm all the pure spirit beings in heaven, as you said. But paradise is a different place.


Please read The Way home or face The Fire, to find out more about this. That is what you seem to be asking about (paradise). All the vital life or death of the soul questions will be answered in that Book.


Some of your questions or imaginations, such as might God start the same thing all over again on another world(?), and being(s) in waiting lines(?) are distractions which have been fed to you by the Dark side. It's like downloading a beneficial program (Father teaching you through in-tuition) but a few viruses get slipped into the download at the same time because your connection to Father is not secure enough yet (your mind easily strays).


Our opportunity is here and now, in this world God has created. And we have to learn what Father wants from us, here and now. After The Last Day, there is no more reincarnation (no more chances).


"This one a long time have I watched. All his life has he looked away... to the future, to the horizon. Never his mind on where he was. Hmm? What he was doing. Hmph." - Yo-Da in Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back.


http://jahtruth.net/starwar.htm


Peace be with you,


Danny.



As it gets Darker, more will seek The Light - http://thewayhomeorfacethefire.net

Anonymous's picture

5wise/5foolish Virgins

God said: I will draw all men to myself. So, in the process of reincarnation, it is possible that after death: judgement, may mean: that- the souls not worthy of heaven but may have merited some sort of reSolveable karma or forcefully ejected from earth, may be given another chance on earth- some souls maybe too wicked to deserve a comeback- and straight to hell and some few elect who have accepted His Son and lived in ACCORDANCE- will ascend this realm to a prepared place by the Son of God! You cannot say you believe in God and not accept HIS WORD! Well, I wish you a continuous come-back till u accept. But remember the time is short and the labourers are few. Everyone is truly given a chance: (Just like some leave this earth early so shall some folks have to reincarnate b4 they believe and therefore look old in the Spirit; but 'better is he who hath not seen but yet believe!'(and therefore save yourself different retriebutive justice via karma for whatsoever a man soweth that shall he reap. David entered God's temple and realised (Buy the truth and sell it not... Study to show thyself approved) that God has placed the wicked on slippery floors- suddenly u shall look and the wicked shall be no more!") 'And you shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free' (from karma and reincarnation) For whom The Son Of Has Set Free is free indeed! (Hope I've been of a little help to u... But move on from here to Bethel- There is more to learn. I have seen that ONLY the Bible has proved irrefutable cos its a two-edged sword. INDIVISIBLE)

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The truth is we are GOOD

We are "Good" the Illuminati has created good and evil to divide and conquer us don't you see that? We are all connected on a much deeper level than many do not take time to notice. We are one body, one life force, one Energy, we are not seperate. The mission of the Illuminati is to divide us so concretely so that all we see is you vs. me vs. them the more "options" and "choices" they give us the more we seperate from Truth. If you believe in "original" sin you are very sadly mistake. "sin" means to stray from the path not an evil act upon one another or upon ourselves or even upon God. It just means we have taken a step off the path of Truth. The Illuminati have the true copy of the bible. We have been given one altered by them. King James was of Illuminati bloodline he wanted what they want, a NWO. The translations of the bible are wrong they have the only copy unaltered. Know the creator in your own heart. Know the truth in your own heart. Do not allow yourself to be mislead by the Illuminati. We are one, to unite we must know we are ONE.

Anonymous's picture

Thank you for posting this.

Thank you for posting this. More of the world must know of the illuminati and their true intentions to lie/brainwash, take over, kill & destroy to make a New World Order.

Anonymous's picture

We translated from the

We translated from the origanal bible it is what it says did happen and is the way we just do t belive in the glade teaching ones King James is not lies met of the bible books are translated from the book before the bible I Am a Christisn of the truth it does mean stay away fro the path and not follow God. Christians translated urge in the right one.

Anonymous's picture

We translated from the

We translated from the origanal bible it is what it says did happen and is the way we just do t belive in the glade teaching ones King James is not lies met of the bible books are translated from the book before the bible I Am a Christisn of the truth it does mean stay away fro the path and not follow God. Christians translated urge in the right one.

soulci's picture

and What makes sense?

Excuse me, you said we are arrogante if we dont believe in reincarnation, and nothing else makes sense ... I think this was very arrongant and narrow minded comment. Reincarnation is just a theory, as all other beliefs.

I dont know what God is and the reason for the existence of this world and all the suffering of human kind. Because I dont know the "God´s mind", sometimes I think we should have never existed in the first place if it´s not to live in a perfect world. Although the planet IS perfect, but we, stupidly, are destroying it.

I´ve tried to find an answer through some religious but they didn’t buy me – and who knows the ultimate truth? I think no one knows, only assumptions. Perhaps in the future we will be able to figure out all the dimensions, and understand better what’s all about - What´s a soul, where it comes from, where it goes (if it goes somewhere), how we are all connected., how and why everything was created. For the moment we have only our faith and beliefs.

Regarding to reincarnation, I have some questions:

Why do we need to be reincarnated over and over?

Why some people suffer they whole life from hunger, illness, cruelty whilst others have a wonderful life, a wonderful family (Im not saying some people don’t have problem at all, but it seems unfair to make a comparison)? Does it mean that the latter people were a good person in the life before and now they are having a treat?

What about those disgusting politicians and business people making a lot of money from the suffering of other people and from our planet?

Why some kids die in the most awful way? Why some good people die from an awful disease??

If you were born in Africa, for instance, with no food to eat, very ill - because you live in a very poor condition, without love, and getting raped from time to time(if you were woman), would you still believe in reincarnation? Would you believe that your soul has reincarnated to pay for something you did in the past life?

What level of consciousness will your soul have if you were born mentally ill, very little mind conscious and not able to control your emotions (because of illness)?

So if this planet one day comes to an end, and so the human kind, Will we ever reincarnate again?? Does it mean our lesson has ended?

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soulci, I hope this finds

soulci,



I hope this finds you well, in good spirit and having a good day.


Thank-you for your post.


Please see my reply to you below in [ ].




and What makes sense?
Submitted by soulci on March 14, 2010 - 16:38.


Excuse me, you said we are arrogante if we dont believe in reincarnation, and nothing else makes sense ... I think this was very arrongant and narrow minded comment. Reincarnation is just a theory, as all other beliefs.


[ Proof separates mere theories and beliefs from Fact (Truth). ]


I dont know what God is and the reason for the existence of this world and all the suffering of human kind.


[ There is a little book referenced on this site that is available for free download. The name of the little book is "The Way home or face The Fire" by JAH and it speaks very plainly about Father (God) and answers your question about the REAL reason for human life on planet earth. ]


Because I dont know the "God´s mind", sometimes I think we should have never existed in the first place if it´s not to live in a perfect world. Although the planet IS perfect, but we, stupidly, are destroying it.


[ Yes we are, which should serve as proof to everyone that this is an insane asylum. ]


I´ve tried to find an answer through some religious but they didn’t buy me –


[ Good. ALL organized religion was created by Satan to keep us away from God and getting to KNOW Him. ]


and who knows the ultimate truth?


[ In the Words of our Creator:-


John 1:1-14
1:1 In the Beginning was the Word (Truth - in Hebrew is Nazir), and the Truth was with God (NOT with Lucifer/Satan the Devil), and the Word was God.
1:2 The same was in the Beginning with God.
1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
1:4 In Him was Life; and the Life was the Light of men.
1:5 And the Light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
1:6 There was a man sent from God, whose name [was] John.
1:7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all [men] through the Light might believe.
1:8 He was not that Light, but [was sent] to bear witness of that Light.
1:9 [That] was the True Light, which Lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
1:10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world (humans) knew him not (could not SEE him inside the body).
1:11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the (adopted) sons of God, [even] to them that believe in his identity:
1:13 Who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man (human), but of God (who is Spirit).
1:14 And the Word was made flesh (incarnated), and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only incarnated of the Father) full of Grace and Truth (Nazir in Hebrew). ]


I think no one knows, only assumptions. Perhaps in the future we will be able to figure out all the dimensions, and understand better what’s all about - What´s a soul, where it comes from, where it goes (if it goes somewhere), how we are all connected., how and why everything was created. For the moment we have only our faith and beliefs.


[ A soul is a spirit-energy being, which is the REAL you. You are a spirit-being that has been "locked" inside the human body you are presently using for a very good reason (Rev. 12:7-9). We have been told this and shown this MANY times in many different ways, but people stubbornly (arrogantly/ignorantly) refuse to "see" even the most obvious signs.


For example, please see the following excerpt from "The Way home or face The Fire" by JAH:-



2:1 After making a study of the situation, God and the elders (of the Morning Star) decided to create a reform-school, far enough away, where, for the chosen period, they could safely try to teach Lucifer and his angels to be good, whereupon they could come home (Deuteronomy 28:1)(Revelations 2:28)(Sura 29:6).
2:2 The objective, was for each and every one of them to learn, individually, to be like God (Matt. 5:48 & 19:17); which, later on in history; because people had lost their way and couldn't find it again by themselves; had to be demonstrated by Jesus, whose teachings taught the ONLY way that you can be taught (I am The Way [home], the Truth and the Life; not one man can come to the Father [home], unless he is like me - John 14:6); i.e. unselfish; humble; kind; loving and considerate to everyone, including his enemies, and "willing" to sacrifice his own human-life, for the benefit of everyone.
2:3 This needs 100% faith in God's promise that there is life after human death, and YOU to trust Him, enough to follow Jesus' example, to earn YOUR right to regain YOUR divinity (immortality), and go home.
2:4 There would be no point, in learning to be good enough to go to heaven, if it was not where you came from originally, and your REAL home, would there ???
2:5 Complete faith can only come from KNOWING God personally, which can only be achieved by learning to COMMUNICATE directly with Him, and by doing His Will (Hosea 6:6). God has NEVER wanted people to believe in Him, He has ALWAYS wanted you to get to KNOW Him (Jeremiah 9:24)(John 17:3).
2:6 Planet Earth was chosen for the prison, because it was far enough away; being on the far side of the galaxy; had no "intelligent" life-forms, but was capable of supporting crude animal life-forms, and, in its own way, was a beautiful planet (Rev. 12:9, 12)(Sura 17:8 & 83:7).
2:7 It was also planned, to create beautiful surroundings, which would have many lessons built into them, and was then constructed, with these factors in mind. Nature, both vegetal and animal, was to give clues to those who would look for them, "seek and you will find" (John 8:32).
2:8 The seasons of nature were intended to teach, that Spring, with its birth, both of vegetation and animals, which was followed by Summer, the time of growth; followed by Autumn, the time of maturing and consolidation; in turn followed by Winter, the time of withering and dying (snow-coloured hair and wrinkles), was to be followed again by Spring, and re-birth. All of this was designed, to show you about human "re-incarnation", or perpetual human "life after death", until you either get it right, regain your divinity and go home, or run out of time, and are executed. ]



Regarding to reincarnation, I have some questions:


Why do we need to be reincarnated over and over?


[ Because we are here to learn from God how to be good (Gen. 1:26) and He is LONGSUFFERING, Just and Fair in ALL things. ]


Why some people suffer they whole life from hunger, illness, cruelty whilst others have a wonderful life, a wonderful family (Im not saying some people don’t have problem at all, but it seems unfair to make a comparison)? Does it mean that the latter people were a good person in the life before and now they are having a treat?


[ Please consider the following from "The Way home or face The Fire" by JAH:-


2:31 A prison, just to restrain evil angels, would be a senseless waste of time, and, in order to operate as a reformatory, it would need to function like a school. God does not permit any unnecessary waste (as demonstrated by Jesus, after the feeding of the five thousand, when he told the disciples to collect up all the crumbs, so that there would be no waste - John 6:12), and so, out of love; wisdom; compassion and mercy, He decided to construct a reformatory, to teach His naughty subjects or children, to be good, so that they could come home, as soon as possible.
2:32 However, He would have to be sure, that you have GENUINELY changed, and will not cause any more trouble, but live in love and harmony, with the other inhabitants of the Morning Star - good [G(o)od's - God's] angels. He also wants His guards to be able to come home too.
2:33 All of this discord makes God very sad, and He looks over the world and weeps, because He wants everyone to be good, and come home, so that He can (metaphorically-speaking) "kill the fatted-calf, and have a celebration, for the return of all His prodigal sons", just like the father in Luke 15:22-24 does. That is all that He has ever wanted of you.
2:34 In the parable of "the prodigal son", the prodigal son who was dead and is alive again (Luke 15:24), represents YOU. The prodigal son who was dead (condemned to death for your crimes), and on returning in humility; disgrace and repentance to his father (God), to serve his father and do his will, has come alive again (been reprieved), was lost and is found. On being refound, the prodigal son finds, to his surprise, that he is accepted back, joyfully, by his father, as his child and not his servant, as he expected. He then realises that he was very foolish to leave his father, and that his life will be much better, living and learning from his father, who is much wiser than himself.
2:35 God is the owner of the vineyard (world), and He has sent His servants (Prophets) and His Son (CHRIST Jesus), and the husbandmen (you) have killed them, so He will have to punish the husbandmen (priests and people of this world)(Matt. 21:33-46), unless you repent.
2:36 To function as a reformatory, everything would have to (and does) fall into one of four categories:-
1. TEACHING from God and "hopefully" LEARNING by you. If not the lesson must be repeated, over and over again, until it IS learned, with punishment each time that a test is failed ("when will I ever learn?").


2. TESTS to see what; how much; how well; or even if the lessons have been learned at all. The tests are set in such a way that they show God the results, to the exact degree. God "uses" the devil for these tests, by letting him tempt you, and then He tells you not to do what Satan says, in a spiritual "tug of war", to see which way you voluntarily decide to go. (This is the reason for needing free-will). "These things are sent to try us." (Job 1:12 & 2:6-7).


3. REWARDS for learning well and doing good deeds, taking the form of true SPIRITUAL happiness (joy) and earned enlightenment.


4. PUNISHMENT for not learning to be good and for continuing to follow the Devil, doing evil. Taking the form of various types and degrees of pain, both mental and physical, e.g. heart-ache; fear; illness or injury; etc.


2:37 EVERYTHING of any relevance, in everyone's life, falls into one of these FOUR categories, YOU have to decide which one. A human school is based on these same principles, and is a school within a school, but, unfortunately, they teach worldly-values, instead of God's values.
2:38 There is ABSOLUTELY no such thing as coincidence, everything is planned, down to the smallest detail, so that when things happen, you have to ask why, and the good telepathic voice within you will tell you why. Then, those who seek, will be able to make sense of their lives, and follow the right path. Similarly, there is no such thing as luck.



Concerning reaping what we sow (perfect karma), please see Gal. 6:7 and what Christ said about this 2000 years ago:-


John 5:14 Afterward Jesus findeth him in the Temple, and said unto him, Behold, thou art made whole: sin no more, lest a WORSE thing come unto thee.


Proving that the reason this man had been ill for 38 years BECAUSE of his sin.


Knowing that we are rewarded for doing good (in God's Eyes) and punished for our sins (which is breaking His Law - I John 3:4), please see the following verses:-


John 9:1-3
9:1 And as [Jesus] passed by, he saw a man which was blind from [his] birth. (re-incarnation)
9:2 And his disciples asked him, saying, Master, who did SIN, THIS MAN, or his parents, that he was BORN blind?
9:3 Jesus answered, Neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents: but that the works of God should be made manifest in him.



God, Who is Just and Fair in ALL things, would NEVER have allowed this spirit-being to be born/reincarnated into a blind human body if it were not EXACTLY what this spirit-being had earned.


He was born blind as punishment for the sins of his past life and to teach him the exact lessons in humility during the current life that he needed. ]



What about those disgusting politicians and business people making a lot of money from the suffering of other people and from our planet?


[ They are the lowest of the low, just as Christ told us 2000 years ago. Please read Matthew 23 realizing that the scribes were the lawyers and the pharisees were the politicians of that time, as well as the leaders of the organized religion. ]


Why some kids die in the most awful way? Why some good people die from an awful disease??


[ The first step in making sense of all of this is to realize that NONE of us are good (Rom. 3:10) and as a result our judgment of what is good and bad is seriously flawed. ]


If you were born in Africa, for instance, with no food to eat, very ill - because you live in a very poor condition, without love, and getting raped from time to time(if you were woman), would you still believe in reincarnation? Would you believe that your soul has reincarnated to pay for something you did in the past life?


[ Do you really think that God would treat any of us unfairly please? God IS Good. God is Love. God is Merciful. God is Just. ]


What level of consciousness will your soul have if you were born mentally ill, very little mind conscious and not able to control your emotions (because of illness)?


[ How do you think Adolf Hitler should be reincarnated if things were perfectly fair (which they are)? ]


So if this planet one day comes to an end, and so the human kind, Will we ever reincarnate again?? Does it mean our lesson has ended?


[ We have but One Choice to Live/be Resurrected, and that is to return to God and His Law (please see Malachi 4). There is no other way for us to be doing His Will on earth as it is already DONE in heaven.


Hoping this helps with your search for the Truth.


Peace be upon you,


Rob ]


God's Servant's picture

If reincarnation is true,

If reincarnation is true, show me one good evidence. Show me 100 people saying that they are reincarnated and have them tell their past lives stories.

Please leave all falsehoods and accept the truth. Reincarnation is a thing that is introduced by man. The main writer of this page is using his own common sense to justify this fact.

If everybody is in the same situation then why do you need any test? Life is full of tests. You will be responsible for what you have done on the basis of your situation. Think about a dramma. Is everybody king there? or is everybody hero? (I am using masculine gender just of ease of writing, but everything is applicable for other gender too) Doesn't anybody other that hero get an award? How does he get an award? He gets on the basis of his act.

Who tells the writer that our soul do not go to heaven? According to the writer, the soul will change the body as soon as it dies. That means number of people die has to be exactly the number of people born. Isn't that crazy? Say God has 7 Billion souls on His hand. What were the souls doing when the world has 6 billion people? Were they flying arround us? The writer just made him/herself a joker.

So, you guys still have time. Please leave this falsehood.

Christopher's picture

Reincarnation the only way

It is only if somebody believes and accepts reincarnation, the Bible has so much more "meaning" of itself and in order to explain life on earth as it is.

There are a few quotes from the Bible on reincarnation, but not so clear cut, and it depends how one "feels" it.

However should we accept Christ's own words, this is perhaps the best passage, on the subject of reincarnation, taken from http://jahtruth.net/celtrein.htm

Jesus taught his Apostles about "Sowing and Reaping" which is called "Karma" (Cause and Effect) by eastern religions and includes inheriting "Bad Karma" from a previous life as a punishment for sins. Proof of this can be found in the Gospel of John:-

9:1 And as [Jesus] passed by, he saw a man which was blind from [his] birth. (re-incarnation)
9:2 And his disciples asked him, saying, Master, who did SIN, THIS MAN, or his parents, that he was BORN blind? (as a punishment for those sins).

It would have been impossible for the man to have sinned before being born, and then be born blind as a punishment, unless he had existed previously, in another body.

cyp's picture

how about when Jesus said:

how about when Jesus said: And Lazarus died and it was taken by angels to heaven. And the rich man died and the demons took him to hell. Or when he says: every branch that does not bear fruit is cast into the fire. Or: he was thrown into the outer darkness where is the sorrow and the gnashing of teeth. Or: and He will say to those on the left: "Go from me accursed ones into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels". You speak about the man that was born blind and say it is impossible for him to have sinned, but remember to you are alive for 9 months before you are born. Also the apostles most likely did not know when they asked how much time have passed since that man was blind. Another explaination for their question is this.

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The Truth the Way and the Life

I been looking for a while for a verse in scripture that defines the factor that Jesus and many of the Holy Prophets seen more then they could teach, since mankind could not understand it and there it is.

John 16:12
I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.

I knew it was in there somewhere. I surely read it and just passed over it without much of a second glance.

But of course when we are ready the knowledge we seek is presented to us.

One must remember where those of ignorant mindsets spawn from. A misunderstood and distorted doctrine of man's laws and man's desire, the physical over the spiritual.

As Jesus said, I forgive them, they know not what they do. Of course in the bible it says Father forgive them but Jesus, and I and many of our kind know well that the Father forgives all things. Thus it stands to reason that he spoke of himself Forgiving them of their sin. To further show his willingness to set aside his physical desires or discomfort for the greater good.

He taught a great thing by being damaged by man. He taught that we do not need to hold hatred or judgment towards those who may persecute us. Up until the end of the crucifixion and all things within that time span he held no anger towards those who did him harm. He held the purest of hearts in his being while every lash carved into his body and with every nail he did the same.

Now back to those who are blinded by darkness and the sin-mind, they do not understand their actions nor understand that doing harm or looking down on another person is not part of the laws of love.

Love is not biased, love does not hate, love does not hold grudges. Love does not grieve or desire what is not it's to have. Love is free and true and does not hold any negatives or suffering. Love is eternal and through love will I also become eternal (cease the cycle of incarnations).

I asked the eternal One

Who am i?

Child of god and gift of life

Who are they?

Child of God and gift of life.

Why do i think?

Gods will is thought

Why do i breathe?

Gods life is breathe, motion

So, Who am i really?

Spirit of life, living vessel of divine thought

Who are you?

God divine, spirit of living sight

I can teach all mysteries of the world but if ones mind is not willing or able to ask God directly then my words will mean next to nothing.

You are your own connection to God and God so loved the world and man that he gives us the chance(s) to be in living unity with his strength and truth.

I am the Way, the Truth and the Life.

(for those interested)

I post a link for the Living vessels of Love and those who inspire to be.

http://144000.net/

Anonymous's picture

I'll tell you what whoever

I'll tell you what whoever put that quote in about yoda is a crack up and obviously are messed up.

Cain's Abel's picture

I agree with D.XIV. The truth is we are GOOD, I agree.

I agree with defiencXIV above, as quoted below. My additional comments are (in parentheses), while my and/or suggested editorial changes or grammatical corrections are [in brackets]

The truth is we are GOOD,

"We are "Good;" the Illuminati(or satan*- perchance there is no difference)has created good and evil (in this existence) to divide and conquer us. Don't you see that? We are all connected on a much deeper level than many [ever] take time to notice. We are one body, one life force, one Energy; we are not separate. The mission of the Illuminati ("Or maybe, Could it be . . . satan?"**) is to divide (and, again, CONQUER) us so concretely so that all we see is you vs. me vs. them.

(You see,) the more "options" and "choices" they ["]give["] us the more we separate from Truth. If you believe in "original" sin you are very sadly mistaken. (To) "sin" means to stray from the path; not an (eternally damning) evil act upon one another or upon ourselves or even upon God. It just means we have taken a step off the path of Truth. (Indeed, it is quite possible that) the Illuminati(or such)have(stolen)the true copy of the bible. We have been given one altered by them. King James was of Illuminati bloodline [and] he wanted (then) what they want(now-) a NWO. The translations of the bible are wrong (and)they (or such like them) have (stolen) the only copy unaltered. Know the creator in your own heart. (I KNOW that there are many Biblical citations available for this point.) Moreover, I, who was reared an Atheist, - yet who constantly argued - at least back then - that I and my family were, at most/least, Agnostic - have learned to)know the truth in your (my)own heart. Do not allow yourself to be mislead by the Illuminati(or such like them, likely). We are one, to unite we must know we are ONE.

(I say that is some Excellent stuff! Its truth radiates.)

(Finally, I always ask the below (or similar) anyone claiming they possess "The Truth" .. (and how can we, from here, be so arrogant as to claim such divinity?)

Me: So you are saying that unless someone hears about Jesus, and accepts His message, in their current life on this earth, they are eternally Hellbound, right?

Them: Yes.

Me: A question: Assuming the official story of WWII and Hitler's death to be true; if, it actually turned out that in that bunker he found Christ, and accepted him, and planned to leave the bunker, surrender, and accept his responsibilities at Nuremberg,(a last minute convert, as it were), but he was then shot and killed by Eva Braun before he could do so, that He would go to heaven?

Them: Yes. The forgiveness of God is infinite.

Me: So you are saying that a two year old, born in a concentration camp, some Third world land, or perhaps in America but kept 100% isolated by evil parents in some "Skinnerian Box"-like closet those first two years until they were starved to death, - that THAT CHILD- who in their life never even heard the phrase "Jesus Christ," are also ETERNALLY DAMNED?

THEM: "Uh, umm, uh, Oh, I hear the phone ringing. I've got to go..."

WHAT KIND OR GOOD GOD WOULD EVER ALLOW SUCH, MUCH LESS A PERFECT GOD. THAT MAKES NO GOOD OR MORAL SENSE TO BE ALLOWED IN ANY PLACE A PERFECT GOD WOULD MAKE... RIGHT?

RIGHT!

Caine's Abel

* The "failure" to capitalize "satan's" nominative is intentional as not deserving; Contra, Jesus, Jah, God, et al.
** Please Pardon the Dana Carvey paraphrasing...

C.A.

Kumera's picture

Evidence

Actual reincarnation evidence exists. Dr Jim Tucker, and his predecessor the late Dr Ian Stevenson, at the University of Virginia School of Medicine, have collected hundreds of well-documented cases. Carol Bowman has collected many people's stories on her website. If you do a Youtube search for "Reincarnation Evidence" you will find people who can tell their past life stories.

The dogma that there is no reincarnation is a man-made myth, and a lie, based on a flimsy interpretation of a single passage in the bible. For those who are interested, there are plenty of other biblical passages that do refer to reincarnation, but the real evidence is in the lives of people, as mentioned in my first paragraph.

cyp's picture

you are wrong. God is not

you are wrong. God is not unfair to give us just one life to live. You have enough time. Also the fact that lives of different people are not the same it is a sign that God is wise. Just because you do not understand God's plan does not make it wrong. Each person can be saved if he/she wants to. We see that Lazarus was poor and sick and had nothing and was in heaven. Also Zaheu was rich , but because he repented for his sins and used his money to make mercy he was saved. Job was both very rich and very poor at times, and yet God has acknowledged him as His own. And the list can go on. No where in the Bible it is even mentioned reincarnation. Rather than that Christ says that after death people go either to heaven or hell. About people that have passed lives memories I affirm this is due to demonic possession. A demon posseses that person for a while and puts in his/her mind those memories, that are most likely its own, since demons can possess both animals and humans alike. be warned lest you face the everlasting fire.

Chimera's picture

Nature has all the answers

In response to God's servant...

Submitted by God's Servant (not verified) on October 18, 2010 - 05:36

"Who tells the writer that our soul do not go to heaven? According to the writer, the soul will change the body as soon as it dies. That means number of people die has to be exactly the number of people born. Isn't that crazy? Say God has 7 Billion souls on His hand. What were the souls doing when the world has 6 billion people? Were they flying arround us? The writer just made him/herself a joker.

So, you guys still have time. Please leave this falsehood."

Observe nature, indications of reincarnation are everywhere. Reincarnation is a type of recycling that we see throughout nature and even in our own bodies. Our cells break things downs and reuse the material. When animals die maggots, worms and other microscopic organisms digests the remnants of the dead animals. Some of it evaporates into the air to be used in chemical metabolism by plants that will be consumed again by other animals. This is just physical recycling on a chemical level that I am describing.

To answer your question, if there are six billion people on earth and a total of 7 billion souls then where are the other 1 billion souls? They very well may be flying around! You answered your own question. Have you studied basic chemistry? What happens with reversible reactions during equilibrium mixtures? The amount of reactant determines the amount of product and vice versa. Do you really believe that all of the energy or reactants in this closed system known as earth that can drive an equilibrium reaction in a certain direction are present in that one reaction??????? NO!!!!!!! Most of the energy is floating around elsewhere!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just like the souls outside of uninhabited bodies.

Observe nature for your answers!

Referring to solci's response:

"I dont know what God is and the reason for the existence of this world and all the suffering of human kind. Because I dont know the "God´s mind", sometimes I think we should have never existed in the first place if it´s not to live in a perfect world. Although the planet IS perfect, but we, stupidly, are destroying it."

Solci, if the planet is perfect then learn from it!!!!!!!!! Many like to bash gays, but there are gay animals in nature, the very nature that you deem perfect! So, is being gay really an abomination, or did a biased human say that it was an abomination? My point, almost anything you question about the method of your existence can be answered via observations of macro and microscopic nature. Water is recycled, night and day are recycled, thought is recycled, atoms are recycled. The music you listen to is recycled, but you believe for one moment that you have not been recycled? Thank God that you have been given chance after chance to perfect your craft. Repetition is the key to perfection. Observe nature. Look at Michael Jordan -- He mastered his craft through repetition. God provides the chance to be skillful masters of eternity through reincarnation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Chimera's picture

Nature has all the answers

In response to God's servant...

Submitted by God's Servant (not verified) on October 18, 2010 - 05:36

"Who tells the writer that our soul do not go to heaven? According to the writer, the soul will change the body as soon as it dies. That means number of people die has to be exactly the number of people born. Isn't that crazy? Say God has 7 Billion souls on His hand. What were the souls doing when the world has 6 billion people? Were they flying arround us? The writer just made him/herself a joker.

So, you guys still have time. Please leave this falsehood."

Observe nature, indications of reincarnation are everywhere. Reincarnation is a type of recycling that we see throughout nature and even in our own bodies. Our cells break things downs and reuse the material. When animals die maggots, worms and other microscopic organisms digests the remnants of the dead animals. Some of it evaporates into the air to be used in chemical metabolism by plants that will be consumed again by other animals. This is just physical recycling on a chemical level that I am describing.

To answer your question, if there are six billion people on earth and a total of 7 billion souls then where are the other 1 billion souls? They very well may be flying around! You answered your own question. Have you studied basic chemistry? What happens with reversible reactions during equilibrium mixtures? The amount of reactant determines the amount of product and vice versa. Do you really believe that all of the energy or reactants in this closed system known as earth that can drive an equilibrium reaction in a certain direction are present in that one reaction??????? NO!!!!!!! Most of the energy is floating around elsewhere!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just like the souls outside of uninhabited bodies.

Observe nature for your answers!

Referring to solci's response:

"I dont know what God is and the reason for the existence of this world and all the suffering of human kind. Because I dont know the "God´s mind", sometimes I think we should have never existed in the first place if it´s not to live in a perfect world. Although the planet IS perfect, but we, stupidly, are destroying it."

Solci, if the planet is perfect then learn from it!!!!!!!!! Many like to bash gays, but there are gay animals in nature, the very nature that you deem perfect! So, is being gay really an abomination, or did a biased human say that it was an abomination? My point, almost anything you question about the method of your existence can be answered via observations of macro and microscopic nature. Water is recycled, night and day are recycled, thought is recycled, atoms are recycled. The music you listen to is recycled, but you believe for one moment that you have not been recycled? Thank God that you have been given chance after chance to perfect your craft. Repetition is the key to perfection. Observe nature. Look at Michael Jordan -- He mastered his craft through repetition. God provides the chance to be skillful masters of eternity through reincarnation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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