Insomnia ([info]insomnia) wrote,
@ 2004-06-06 01:09:00
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A few words to remember before the lovefest begins.
President Rios Montt [is] a man of great personal integrity and commitment who wants to improve the quality of life for all Guatemalans, and [is] getting a 'bum rap' on human rights." -- Reagan, '82, speaking about Rios Montt, former dictator of Guatemala. During his reign, approximately 70,000 peasants and political dissidents were killed by the Guatemalan government.

"They have eliminated the segregation that we once had in our own country..." Reagan, '85, praising the government of P.W. Botha in South Africa, during the height of Apartheid.

"They are the moral equivalent of America's founding fathers." -- Reagan, '85, referring to the brutal Contra rebels in Nicaragua, who indiscriminately attacked civilians.

"...an example to the world of the ideals we hold most dear, the ideals of freedom and independence." -- Reagan, '85, praising the Afghan Mujahaddin. These "freedom fighters" included prominent leaders of Al Qaeda, such as Osama Bin Laden, as well as many of the leaders for the Taliban.

"Trees cause more pollution than automobiles do." - Reagan '81

"A tree is a tree. How many more do you have to look at?" - Reagan '66, opposing expansion of Redwood National Park

"Many beach-goers prefer to be crowded together. Buying more beaches that people won't go to because they prefer to be crowded together on one beach is a ridiculous waste of our natural resources and our taxes." -- Reagan, on California's coastline.

"I have flown twice over Mt St Helens out on our west coast. I'm not a scientist and I don't know the figures, but I have a suspicion that that one little mountain has probably released more sulphur dioxide into the atmosphere of the world than has been released in the last ten years of automobile driving or things of that kind that people are so concerned about." -- Reagan, '80. At its peak, Mt. St. Helens released 1/40th as much sulfur dioxide as cars do every day.

"I've said it before and I'll say it again. The U.S. Geological Survey has told me that the proven potential for oil in Alaska alone is greater than the proven reserves in Saudi Arabia." -- Reagan, '80. Saudi Arabia's oil reserves are approximately 17 times those of Alaska.

"All the waste in a year from a nuclear power plant can be stored under a desk." -- Reagan, '80. (In fact, a single nuclear power plant can produce up to 22,000 cubic feet of of radioactive waste per year.)

"There is today in the United States as much forest as there was when Washington was at Valley Forge." -- Reagan, '83. According to the US Forest Service, only 30% of the U.S. forest lands that existed in 1775 still existed in 1983.

"Why should we subsidize intellectual curiosity?" -- Reagan, '80

"They turned out the lights. That tells me I can't talk anymore." -- Reagan, '85, dodging reporters questions.

"I am not worried about the deficit. It is big enough to take care of itself." -- Reagan, during the latter years of his administration.

"The problem is the deficit is -- or should I say -- wait a minute, the spending, I should say, of gross national product, forgive me -- the spending is roughly 23 to 24 per cent. So that it is in -- it what is increasing while the revenues are staying proportionately the same and what would be the proper amount they should, that we should be taking from the private sector." -- Reagan, on the economy.

"The poverty rate has begun to decline, but it is still going up." -- Reagan, on the poor.

"He wrote in Braille to tell me that if cutting his pension would help get this country back on its feet, he'd like to have me cut his pension." -- Reagan, '81, in reference to a supposed blind person who wrote him a letter. After reporter inqueries, no such letter was ever shown to have existed.

"Now we are trying to get unemployment to go up and I think we're going to succeed" -- Reagan, '82.

"Even though there may be some misguided critics of what we're trying to do, I think we're on the wrong path." -- Reagan, '87

"Facts are stupid things.." -- Reagan, '88

"We think there is a parallel between federal involvement in education and the decline in profit over recent years." -- Reagan, '83

"...a faceless mass, waiting for handouts." -- Reagan, '65, describing Medicaid recipients.

"Because Vietnam was not a declared war, the veterans are not even eligible for the G. I. Bill of Rights with respect to education or anything." -- Reagan, '80

"Today a newcomer to the state is automatically eligible for our many aid programs the moment he crosses the border." -- Reagan, '66. In fact, immigrants to California had to wait five years before becoming eligible for benefits. Reagan later acknowledged his error, but repeated the same thing nine months later.

"Fascism was really the basis for the New Deal.." -- Reagan, '76

"It would be a user fee..." -- Reagan, '82, explaining how a five cent a gallon tax on gasoline isn't actually a tax.

"Taxes should hurt. I just mailed my own tax return last night and I am prepared to say `ouch!' as loud as anyone." -- Reagan, '70, after approving California's largest tax increase in history. Reporters soon pointed out that Reagan didn't pay a cent on state taxes that year. For all his talk about shrinking government, California's state budget more than doubled under his governorship, from $4.6 billion to $10.2 billion.
"I have a smiling fellow at the end of the table who tells me what we do." -- Reagan, '81, on how budget decisions are made.

"I never knew anything above Cs." -- Reagan, '81, describing his academic record.

"I know all the bad things that happened in that war. I was in uniform for four years myself." -- Reagan, '85, justifying laying a wreath at a nazi cemetary in Bitburg. Reagan spent WWII in Hollywood, making films.

"They haven't been there. I have." Reagan, '85, justifying his policies on Nicaragua. Ronald Reagan had never visited Nicaragua.

"They've done away with those committees. That shows the success of what the Soviets were able to do in this country." -- Reagan, '87, defending McCarthyism and the House Un-American Activities Committee.

"In England, if a criminal carried a gun, even though he didn't use it, he was not tried for burglary or theft or whatever he was doing. He was tried for first degree murder and hung if he was found guilty" -- Reagan, '82. Later admitted by White House Spokesman Larry Speakes to be untrue.

""I never wear (makeup). I didn't wear it when I was in pictures." -- Reagan, '84. This statement is promptly disputed the next day by G.E. Theater makeup man Howard Smith, "Death Valley Days" makeup man Del Acevedo, and debate panelist James Weighart, as well as Mayor Edward Bergin, recalling a recent presidential visit to Connecticut.

"80 percent of air pollution comes not from chimneys and auto exhaust pipes, but from plants and trees." -- Reagan, '79

"My fellow Americans, I'm pleased to tell you today that I've signed legislation that will outlaw Russia forever. We begin bombing in five minutes." -- Reagan, '84

"I've been told that in the Russian language there isn't even a word for freedom." -- Reagan, '85. The word, btw, is svoboda.

"I cannot recall anything whatsoever.... My answer therefore and the simple truth is, 'I don't remember, period'" -- Reagan, Feb. '87, denying knowledge of the Iran-Contra "arms for hostages" deal.

"Mr. President, why don't we openly support those 7,000 guerillas that are in rebellion rather than giving aid through covert activity?"
"Well, because we want to keep on obeying the laws of our country, which we are now obeying."
"Doesn't the United States want that government replaced?"
"No, because that would be a violation of the law."
- Reagan, ''87. At the time of the press conference, the U.S. was giving the indiscriminately murderous Contra guerillas covert aid, in direct violation of the law. Reagan's lie was so obvious that members of the press corps laughed loudly and openly at his statements.

"A few months ago, I told the American people I did not trade arms for hostages. My heart and my best intentions still tell me that's true, but the facts and evidence tell me it is not." -- Reagan, Mar. '87

"If the question comes up at the Tower Board meeting, you might want to say that you were surprised." -- Reagan, '87, accidentally reading the notes for his stage directions aloud which told him to act surprised should the issue of arms-for-hostages come up.

"You sonofabitch, you broke my rib." - Reagan, '81 to the Secret Service agent who pushed him into his car. Reagan later realized that he was shot and that the agent had possibly saved his life.

"Hollywood has no blacklist." -- Reagan, '60. FBI records have since shown that this was a lie, and that Reagan personally informed on several actors, later shown to be innocent, destroying their careers in the process.

"I would have voted against the Civil Rights Act of 1964." -- Reagan, '66, on how he would have opposed the legislation that came out of the civil rights movement.

"Jefferson Davis is a hero of mine." -- Reagan, in a speech he gave to a crowd in Atlanta, GA.

"...humiliating to the South..." -- Reagan, '80, describing the Voting Rights Act of 1965, arguably the primary legislative victory for blacks during the Civil Rights movement.

"I believe in states' rights..." --Reagan, '80, in a speech in Philadelphia, MS, a town famous for the murder of three civil rights workers in '64. "States rights" is used in the South as a code word indicating support of Jim Crow laws.

"A small minority of beatniks, radicals, and filthy speech advocates ... brought such shame to a great university." -- Reagan, '66, complaining about student protests against Vietnam on the Berkeley campus.

"If there has to be a bloodbath, then let's get it over with." -- Reagan, '69, prior to having national guard soldiers break up a peaceful protest on the UC Berkeley campus. The protesters were teargassed and fired upon with buckshot, killing one protester and wounding at least 128 others.

"... a tragic illness." -- Reagan, '67, desribing homosexuality. When two of his aides were found to be gay that year, he asked for their resignations.

"Maybe the Lord brought down this plague [because] illicit sex is against the Ten Commandments." - Reagan, '89. Reagan didn't even mention AIDS until 1987, by which time it had spread into the heterosexual population and over 25,000 Americans had died.

"What we have found in this country, and maybe we're more aware of it now, is one problem that we've had, even in the best of times, and that is the people who are sleeping on the grates, the homeless who are homeless, you might say, by choice" - Reagan, '84.

"For the first time ever, everything is in place for the battle of Armageddon and the Second Coming of Christ. It can't be too long now. Ezekiel says that fire and brimstone will be rained upon the enemies of God's people. That must mean that they will be destroyed by nuclear weapons." -- Reagan, '71

"We're not building missiles to fight a war. We're building missiles to preserve the peace." -- Reagan, '84, justifying adding additional nuclear weapons to an arsenal already capable of destroying the world many times over.

"There have been times in the past when people thought the end of the world was coming, and so forth, but never anything like this." -- Reagan, '83

"We may be the generation that sees Armageddon." -- Reagan, '85

"It's silly talking about how many years we will have to spend in the jungles of Vietnam when we could pave the whole country and put parking strips on it, and be home by Christmas" -- Reagan, '65

I remember what it was like living during Reagan's era. The fear of free expression. The fear of a president who talked more of Armageddon than of peace. The greed. The "trickle down economics" that never helped those who needed it. The pushing of one generation's burdens onto another. The corruption, the threats, the willful ignorance. He may have sounded presidential to some, but what is the merit of being the world's best salesman if what you are selling is hatred, mistrust, suffering, and lies?!

It chafes me that his body is going to be laid out in Congress like some kind Soviet-era premier, and that a neoconservative lovefest will take over our media, in a sacharrine attempt to deify the disease-wracked body of a spiteful, bigoted, meanspirited old man. They deified Nixon too, who, for all his sleaze, hate, corrpution, and vindictiveness, was a greater leader, worthy of greater praise. Now it's the Gipper's turn.



As always, Reagan leaves me with an unpleasant after-taste. Bye, "friend"...


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[info]mrericsir
2004-06-06 08:41 am UTC (link)
I'm sure the Reagan family is "mourning in America" (har har!)

Meanwhile, Latin America is certainly celebrating.

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[info]joiseyguy
2004-06-06 08:48 am UTC (link)
Great collection of quotes. Good reminder of who Dubya's role model was. Great Republican minds are filled with the same cobwebs. I remember too. And the last 4 years has been one major deja-vu.

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Hmm.
[info]nematoddity
2004-06-06 09:19 am UTC (link)
I remember my mother and I were struggling to get off public assistance during Reagan's reign. So I have an intimate set of memories dealing with catsup being declared a vegetable in public schools, Reagan's infamous 'cheese-for-everyone' approach to feeding the poor, and how deeply he gutted Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, and welfare during his presidency.

When informed about Reagan's death last night, I'm not ashamed to admit my first response was, 'Good.'

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[info]ocexile
2004-06-06 09:28 am UTC (link)
James Rector was his name, the innocent bystander killed after Reagan ordered the National Guard to occupy Berkeley. He left thousands of victims in his wake, many in Nicaragua, El Salvador, Lebanon. And millions of young Americans, including myself, grew up with the fear of nuclear winter because his aggressive policies ended detente with the Soviet Union, and escalated the chances of World War III...

Inevitably, all the media outlets will trip over themselves in trying to out-eulogize Reagan, concluding that "he tore down the Berlin Wall and ended the Cold War." Um, excuse me?? I think the Germans had a hand or two the former, and Gorbachev and Eastern Europe did something to foment the latter. You know, those pro-peace and anti-nuke activists whom the Republicans love to hate? They helped end the Cold War.

Last year, I wrote a column on this subject, entitled Cold War and Peace, Revisited. I wasn't thinking about Reagan per se, but it's a healthy antidote to propaganda blitz we'll endure over the next week. Rest in peace, a peace that good people around the world created in spite of you.

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[info]insomnia
2004-06-06 10:26 am UTC (link)
Very interesting. Thanks for passing this info on!

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[info]lafinjack
2004-06-06 12:09 pm UTC (link)
Looks like he got Alzheimers early in his career...

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[info]elimangel
2004-06-10 03:24 pm UTC (link)
Maybe he got alzheimers out of some kind of conscious or sub-conscious guilt of being such a bastige during his career and he wanted to forget.

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[info]androkles
2004-06-06 12:37 pm UTC (link)
Thanks for the reminders. I remember the Reagan/Thatcher era as one of unbearable tension, hostility and conflict. How dare they beatify him.

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[info]clintswan
2004-06-06 01:31 pm UTC (link)
I am totally ganking this info...thanks!

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[info]fightingchicken
2004-06-06 01:31 pm UTC (link)
god bless the death of Ronald Reagan
and bless us all, this world this day.
for i don't believe in earthly government
for politicians on parade.

-the olivia newton-john denver omelettes.

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[info]giantlaser
2004-06-06 02:30 pm UTC (link)
I'm glad I'm over here, where I won't be flooded with all the crap many of you will now endure.

Thanks for that summary, Mark.

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[info]roadnotes
2004-06-06 02:52 pm UTC (link)
Thank you. I am going to link to this post, to answer people's questions.

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[info]poetbear
2004-06-06 03:01 pm UTC (link)
Mark, i saw your Reagan quotes in Currawong's journal,
and couldn't resist quoting them in mine. of course
i attributed it to you, along with copyright. hope you
don't mind. i feel almost exactly like you do. my wife
and i kept looking at the self-serving news reports until
we couldn't stand it any longer. "The Great Communicator?"
i think not! more like the great Bullshit Artist!
~paul

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[info]stealthmunchkin
2004-06-06 04:11 pm UTC (link)
=applauds=

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[info]saint_monkey
2004-06-06 05:05 pm UTC (link)
ah, thank you thank you thank you.
i'm sure i will revisit this time and again, as the repugnicans vie to have every federal building renamed in reagan's honor, and try to get him added to mount rushmore.

the man was evil, and the largest injustice is that he will die ignorant of the damage that he has allowed to occur.

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[info]noressa
2004-06-06 05:21 pm UTC (link)
He's dead. It happens. This is where I'm grateful that I don't watch news programs or listen to most radio... I've skillfully avoided the innundation of tributes to him.

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[info]kshandra
2004-06-06 05:29 pm UTC (link)
You and me both.

I certainly won't deify the man (too many memories of what he did both to the country and to CA in his prior political career), but having first-hand experience of what Alzheimer's can do to a person (and that person's family), I'm not rushing to join the throng singing "Ding Dong, The Witch Is Dead," either.

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[info]imlac
2004-06-06 06:37 pm UTC (link)
That was quality. Where did you get those? I'm going to repost them on my LJ.

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[info]deadletters
2004-06-06 06:40 pm UTC (link)
Awesome. And terrifying.
Something I've been finding is a good number of people saying, 'You're all creeps because it's sad an old man died.' It seems like I'm only provoking a flamer, but would you take a look at Visgoth[info]visgoth's entry?

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Not a flamer, just a thinker
(Anonymous)
2004-06-08 03:26 am UTC (link)
This is Visgoth's entry, "Another thing I've noticed is that many of the people who "hated" Reagan are too young to actually *remember* Reagan as anything other than a face on the TV that was supposed to be somehow important, and probably developed their "opinion" of the man more on delivered wisdom from their parents than on any evaluation of who he was and what he did. Deriving joy from the death of someone simply because you were told to seems to be well... A little bit like knuckling under to thought control."

I agree 100%. Where is he wrong?

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Re: Not a flamer, just a thinker - [info]insomnia, 2004-06-08 03:51 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Not a flamer, just a thinker - [info]visgoth, 2006-03-08 10:03 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: Not a flamer, just a thinker - [info]insomnia, 2004-06-08 04:13 am UTC (Expand)

[info]bibliofile
2004-06-06 06:51 pm UTC (link)
Thanks for the memories! A little debunking is always good, just in case I happen to encounter too many tributes.

(Followed a link to your post from [info]roadnotes)

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[info]worldforger
2004-06-06 07:10 pm UTC (link)
Amen.

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[info]shakespeherian
2004-06-06 07:16 pm UTC (link)
I'm ganking, as well.

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[info]stimps
2004-06-06 08:17 pm UTC (link)

I remember what it was like living during Reagan's era. The fear of free expression. The fear of a president who talked more of Armageddon than of peace. The greed. The "trickle down economics" that never helped those who needed it. The pushing of one generation's burdens onto another. The corruption, the threats, the willful ignorance. He may have sounded presidential to some, but what is the merit of being the world's best salesman if what you are selling is hatred, mistrust, suffering, and lies?!


Thank you, thank you. This is exactly how I feel. There hasn't been a time in my life where I felt as unsafe, as unsure of whether the next day was actually going to dawn. I've linked to your entry from my journal. I saw another good list here on ludickid's lj, if you're interested.

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[info]rmjwell
2004-06-06 09:31 pm UTC (link)
Thanks for the list of reminders of his ability to smile and lie.

On the AIDS front, I wonder if the quilt could make an appearance at one of his funeral services? I think it would be one of the most eloquent statements that could be made about his contribution to the epidemic.

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[info]legolas
2004-06-06 09:37 pm UTC (link)
Nice list of quotes! I must have been to young/to far away to really remember what he was like, so it's good to read something to put all the deifying in perspective.

A couple of comments on some of these:

"We think there is a parallel between federal involvement in education and the decline in profit over recent years.." -- Reagan, '83

That's horrendous! And it does sound like something the current puppet, *uhum* president would say.

"My fellow Americans, I'm pleased to tell you today that I've signed legislation that will outlaw Russia forever. We begin bombing in five minutes." -- Reagan, '84

I continue to fail to understand how people that can say this sort of things can ever be elected... and even elected president! Or is it just because of these sort of things they get elected? ;-)

"You sonofabitch, you broke my rib." - Reagan, '81 to the Secret Service agent who pushed him into his car. Reagan later realized that he was shot and that the agent had possibly saved his life.

Well ok, but you shouldn't be held responsible for most of what you say shortly after you've been almost mortally shot, IMHO.

"For the first time ever, everything is in place for the battle of Armageddon and the Second Coming of Christ. It can't be too long now. Ezekiel says that fire and brimstone will be rained upon the enemies of God's people. That must mean that they will be destroyed by nuclear weapons." -- Reagan, '71

Huh? Weird! Was he some sort of fundamentalist christian?

"We're not building missiles to fight a war We're building missiles to preserve the peace." -- Reagan, '84

Strangely, in view of the end of the cold war, he might have been right!

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[info]tapefxdmyglsses
2004-06-07 05:02 pm UTC (link)
That last quote that you quoted reminds me of Dr. Strangelove.

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end of the cold war - (Anonymous), 2004-06-08 04:11 am UTC (Expand)
Re: end of the cold war - [info]legolas, 2004-06-08 05:18 pm UTC (Expand)
Celebrating it's 19th birthday
[info]tudorlady
2004-06-06 09:55 pm UTC (link)
My tubal ligation. Had it in '85, which was as soon as I could arrange it. I was utterly, utterly convinced - thanks, Ron, - that at some point in my reproductive life, abortion would be unavailable, and real, reliable birth control damn difficult to obtain. It hasn't happened overnight - although it could have - but we are getting dangerously close. Women who choose not to reproduce are still considered freaks.

Thanks, Mr. Reagan. You were the beginning of our slide into theocracy.

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[info]d_rider
2004-06-06 10:26 pm UTC (link)
Linked from my journal. Thank you.

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[info]shakespeherian
2004-06-07 01:06 am UTC (link)
Even bad men die.

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